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Luhanopi: /* General */ reports

2026-07-25T17:20:29Z

General: reports

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	==== General ====		==== General ====
			* When a minor reports an unsafe situation, they are often believed less than adults. Why is that? ??

	==== At home ====		==== At home ====

Luhanopi: /* Violations */ bullying

2026-07-25T17:19:17Z

Violations: bullying

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	* When a minor runs from home, they are often brought back without a welfare investigation. It happens even if they claim abuse. Why is that acceptable?		* When a minor runs from home, they are often brought back without a welfare investigation. It happens even if they claim abuse. Why is that acceptable?
	==== At school ====		==== At school ====
			* A good faith attempt is often not made to resolve bullying? Why?
	==== By businesses ====		==== By businesses ====

Luhanopi: /* Violations */

2026-07-25T16:51:13Z

Violations

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	* When the parents are unsafe kids are often kept at the home. The parents' right to have kids is more important that the kids' right, especially the right to safety. Why is that?		* When the parents are unsafe kids are often kept at the home. The parents' right to have kids is more important that the kids' right, especially the right to safety. Why is that?
	* When a minor runs from home, they are often brought back without a welfare investigation. It happens even if they claim abuse. Why is that acceptable?		* When a minor runs from home, they are often brought back without a welfare investigation. It happens even if they claim abuse. Why is that acceptable?
			==== At school ====
			==== By businesses ====

	== Agency ==		== Agency ==

Luhanopi: /* Safety */ expanded

2026-07-25T16:11:42Z

Safety: expanded

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 == Safety ==
 We believe that everyone deserves to feel safe. To be more precise, we believe that a person has a right not to be placed in an unsafe situation and to leave one, to the extent possible.
 == Agency ==

Luhanopi: built a skeleton

2026-07-25T15:09:11Z

built a skeleton

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			We believe that everybody deserves certain rights no matter ''who'' they are or ''what'' they do. Why does this standard seem not to apply to young people? Why aren't these people's rights respected? Why do we, as a society, find it okay to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? We do we often justify treating them in a way no adult ought to be treated?

	== Dignity ==		== Dignity ==
	We believe ~~that all people have~~ an inherit worth and deserve to be valued and respected<ref name="wp-dignity">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity</ref>~~. No matter ''who'' they are or ''what'' they do. This includes people below a certain age~~. We believe young people should not be degraded, dehumanized, instrumentalized, objectified, or humiliated. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with us...		We believe everybody has an inherit worth and deserve to be valued and respected<ref name="wp-dignity">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity</ref>. We believe young people should not be degraded, dehumanized, instrumentalized, objectified, or humiliated. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with us...

	~~Why do we, as a society, find it okay to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated?~~

	Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
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	==== General ====		==== General ====
	* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?		* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?
	* We photograph kids ~~without them knowing and/or consenting~~ (~~kids~~ who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?		* We photograph kids (who are old enough to understand the situation) without them knowing and/or consenting. Why is that acceptable?
	* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?		* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?
	* Mental health issues of young people are not taken seriously. ~~When an~~ adult feels overwhelmed~~, they~~ often ~~can at least~~ take a Friday off in ~~a few~~ weeks. ~~And regardless~~, they are not expected to ~~regularly~~ work on the weekends at all (and if they ~~work at weekends~~ they get other days off) ~~and they~~ can ~~reasonably~~ expect to ~~know~~ their work schedule for a few following weeks. ~~They can~~ also try to pick up less tasks. When a student feels overwhelmed, however they cannot easily reduce their task load or		* Mental health issues of young people are not taken seriously. An adult who feels overwhelmed can often take a Friday off in one of the following weeks. If that isn't possible, they are usually not expected to do regular work on the weekends at all (and if they are they get other days off). And adults can usually expect to be told their work schedule for a few following weeks. It is also acceptable for them to try to pick up less tasks. When a student feels overwhelmed, however they cannot easily reduce their task load or try to get a day off.
	==== At home ====		==== At home ====
	* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?		* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?
	==== At school ====		==== At school ====
	* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (~~including~~ behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?		* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (this includes behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?
	* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?		* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?
	==== By businesses ====		==== By businesses ====
	* Businesses often deny non-dangerous services to young people, because to them it appears they will disturb the business or others, sometimes even on false assumptions (in situations where presence of youths could benefit the business).		* Businesses often deny non-dangerous services to young people, because to them it appears they will disturb the business or others, sometimes even on false assumptions (in situations where presence of youths could benefit the business).
	==References==
			== Safety ==
			We believe that everyone deserves to feel safe. To be more precise, we believe that a person has a right not to be placed in an unsafe situation and to leave one, to the extent possible.

			== Agency ==


			== Justice ==


			== Information ==


			== Privacy ==


			== Freedom of thought and expression ==


			== Growth ==


			== Enjoyment of rights ==


			== References ==
	<references />		<references />

Luhanopi: moved dignity to its section

2026-07-25T13:36:28Z

moved dignity to its section

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			== Dignity ==
	We believe that all people have an inherit worth and deserve to be valued and respected<ref name="wp-dignity">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity</ref>. No matter ''who'' they are or ''what'' they do. This includes people below a certain age. We believe young people should not be degraded, dehumanized, instrumentalized, objectified, or humiliated. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with us...		We believe that all people have an inherit worth and deserve to be valued and respected<ref name="wp-dignity">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity</ref>. No matter ''who'' they are or ''what'' they do. This includes people below a certain age. We believe young people should not be degraded, dehumanized, instrumentalized, objectified, or humiliated. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with us...

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	Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== Violations ==		=== Violations ===
	=== General ===		==== General ====
	* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?		* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?
	* We photograph kids without them knowing and/or consenting (kids who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?		* We photograph kids without them knowing and/or consenting (kids who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?
	* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?		* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?
	* Mental health issues of young people are not taken seriously. When an adult feels overwhelmed, they often can at least take a Friday off in a few weeks. And regardless, they are not expected to regularly work on the weekends at all (and if they work at weekends they get other days off) and they can reasonably expect to know their work schedule for a few following weeks. They can also try to pick up less tasks. When a student feels overwhelmed, however they cannot easily reduce their task load or		* Mental health issues of young people are not taken seriously. When an adult feels overwhelmed, they often can at least take a Friday off in a few weeks. And regardless, they are not expected to regularly work on the weekends at all (and if they work at weekends they get other days off) and they can reasonably expect to know their work schedule for a few following weeks. They can also try to pick up less tasks. When a student feels overwhelmed, however they cannot easily reduce their task load or
	=== At home ===		==== At home ====
	* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?		* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?
	=== At school ===		==== At school ====
	* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?		* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?
	* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?		* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?
	=== By businesses ===		==== By businesses ====
	* Businesses often deny non-dangerous services to young people, because to them it appears they will disturb the business or others, sometimes even on false assumptions (in situations where presence of youths could benefit the business).		* Businesses often deny non-dangerous services to young people, because to them it appears they will disturb the business or others, sometimes even on false assumptions (in situations where presence of youths could benefit the business).
	==References==		==References==
	<references />		<references />

Luhanopi: Luhanopi moved page Dignity to The issues: I believe we should keep all of the rights and violations on one page. Open to discussion.

2026-07-25T13:35:46Z

Luhanopi moved page Dignity to The issues: I believe we should keep all of the rights and violations on one page. Open to discussion.

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Luhanopi: fixed harder levels

2026-07-25T13:33:08Z

fixed harder levels

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	* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?		* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?
	* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?		* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?
	== By businesses ==		=== By businesses ===
	* Businesses often deny non-dangerous services to young people, because to them it appears they will disturb the business or others, sometimes even on false assumptions (in situations where presence of youths could benefit the business).		* Businesses often deny non-dangerous services to young people, because to them it appears they will disturb the business or others, sometimes even on false assumptions (in situations where presence of youths could benefit the business).
	==References==		==References==
	<references />		<references />

Luhanopi: spellling, expanded

2026-06-24T17:14:43Z

spellling, expanded

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	We believe that all people deserve to be valued and respected<ref name="wp-dignity">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity</ref>. No matter ''who'' they are or ''what'' they do. This includes people below a certain age. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with us...		We believe that all people have an inherit worth and deserve to be valued and respected<ref name="wp-dignity">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity</ref>. No matter ''who'' they are or ''what'' they do. This includes people below a certain age. We believe young people should not be degraded, dehumanized, instrumentalized, objectified, or humiliated. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with us...

	~~We believe~~ young people ~~should not~~ be:		Why do we, as a society, find it okay to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated?
	* degraded,
	* dehumanized,
	* instrumentalized or objectified,
	* humiliated.

	~~Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated?~~ Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== Violations ==		== Violations ==
	=== ~~Generally~~ ===		=== General ===
	* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?		* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?
	* We photograph kids without them knowing and/or consenting (kids who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?		* We photograph kids without them knowing and/or consenting (kids who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?
	* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?		* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?
			* Mental health issues of young people are not taken seriously. When an adult feels overwhelmed, they often can at least take a Friday off in a few weeks. And regardless, they are not expected to regularly work on the weekends at all (and if they work at weekends they get other days off) and they can reasonably expect to know their work schedule for a few following weeks. They can also try to pick up less tasks. When a student feels overwhelmed, however they cannot easily reduce their task load or
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
	* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?		* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?
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	* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?		* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?
	* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?		* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?
			== By businesses ==
			* Businesses often deny non-dangerous services to young people, because to them it appears they will disturb the business or others, sometimes even on false assumptions (in situations where presence of youths could benefit the business).
	==References==		==References==
	<references />		<references />

Luhanopi: /* Violation */ plural headings,

2026-06-24T13:42:02Z

Violation: plural headings,

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	Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== ~~Violation~~ ==		== Violations ==
	=== Generally ===		=== Generally ===
	* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?		* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?
	* We photograph kids without them knowing or consenting (~~I'm talking about~~ kids old enough to understand ~~that~~). Why is that acceptable?		* We photograph kids without them knowing and/or consenting (kids who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?
	* We use cruel and unusual punishment against ~~the~~ children. Or when punishing them we don't ~~make sure they know what they are punished for and make the punishment fair. We don't allow any form of appeal either~~. Why is that normalized?		* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
	* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?		* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?