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Luhanopi: spellling, expanded

2026-06-24T17:14:43Z

spellling, expanded

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	We believe that all people deserve to be valued and respected<ref name="wp-dignity">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity</ref>. No matter ''who'' they are or ''what'' they do. This includes people below a certain age. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with us...		We believe that all people have an inherit worth and deserve to be valued and respected<ref name="wp-dignity">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dignity</ref>. No matter ''who'' they are or ''what'' they do. This includes people below a certain age. We believe young people should not be degraded, dehumanized, instrumentalized, objectified, or humiliated. Unfortunately not everyone agrees with us...

	~~We believe~~ young people ~~should not~~ be:		Why do we, as a society, find it okay to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated?
	* degraded,
	* dehumanized,
	* instrumentalized or objectified,
	* humiliated.

	~~Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated?~~ Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== Violations ==		== Violations ==
	=== ~~Generally~~ ===		=== General ===
	* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?		* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?
	* We photograph kids without them knowing and/or consenting (kids who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?		* We photograph kids without them knowing and/or consenting (kids who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?
	* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?		* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?
			* Mental health issues of young people are not taken seriously. When an adult feels overwhelmed, they often can at least take a Friday off in a few weeks. And regardless, they are not expected to regularly work on the weekends at all (and if they work at weekends they get other days off) and they can reasonably expect to know their work schedule for a few following weeks. They can also try to pick up less tasks. When a student feels overwhelmed, however they cannot easily reduce their task load or
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
	* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?		* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?
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	* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?		* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?
	* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?		* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?
			== By businesses ==
			* Businesses often deny non-dangerous services to young people, because to them it appears they will disturb the business or others, sometimes even on false assumptions (in situations where presence of youths could benefit the business).
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Luhanopi: /* Violation */ plural headings,

2026-06-24T13:42:02Z

Violation: plural headings,

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	Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== ~~Violation~~ ==		== Violations ==
	=== Generally ===		=== Generally ===
	* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?		* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are likely to be more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such a claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?
	* We photograph kids without them knowing or consenting (~~I'm talking about~~ kids old enough to understand ~~that~~). Why is that acceptable?		* We photograph kids without them knowing and/or consenting (kids who are old enough to understand the situation). Why is that acceptable?
	* We use cruel and unusual punishment against ~~the~~ children. Or when punishing them we don't ~~make sure they know what they are punished for and make the punishment fair. We don't allow any form of appeal either~~. Why is that normalized?		* We use cruel and unusual punishment against children. Or when punishing them we don't follow basic [[due process]]. Why is that normalized?
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
	* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?		* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?

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2026-06-24T13:06:43Z

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	== Violation ==		== Violation ==
	=== Generally ===		=== Generally ===
	* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}}). ~~Often~~, a good-faith attempt isn't made ~~to investigate these claims~~. Why is that?		* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}}). When an adult makes a claim, a good-faith attempt at verifying it is often made. When a minor makes such claim, such attempt isn't made. Why is that?
	* We photograph kids without them knowing or consenting (I'm talking about kids old enough to understand that). Why is that acceptable?		* We photograph kids without them knowing or consenting (I'm talking about kids old enough to understand that). Why is that acceptable?
	* We use cruel and unusual punishment against the children. Or when punishing them we don't make sure they know what they are punished for and make the punishment fair. We don't allow any form of appeal either. Why is that normalized?		* We use cruel and unusual punishment against the children. Or when punishing them we don't make sure they know what they are punished for and make the punishment fair. We don't allow any form of appeal either. Why is that normalized?
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	* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?		* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?
	=== At school ===		=== At school ===
	* ~~Why are~~ students' respect ~~is often tied~~ to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't disturb others)?		* We tie students' respect to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't directly disturb others). Why do we find this acceptable?
	* Why do we find it acceptable to publicly humiliate ~~a student~~ for a small ~~mistake~~?		* We publicly humiliate students for small mistakes. Why is that justifiable?

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Luhanopi: /* howit happens */

2026-06-24T12:45:50Z

howit happens

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	Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== ~~howit happens~~ ==		== Violation ==
	=== Generally ===		=== Generally ===
	* ~~Why are claims~~ made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?		* Claims made by young people are believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}}). Often, a good-faith attempt isn't made to investigate these claims. Why is that?
	* Why ~~do we find it~~ acceptable ~~to photograph a child against their will? Or publish photographs of a child taken against their will~~?		* We photograph kids without them knowing or consenting (I'm talking about kids old enough to understand that). Why is that acceptable?
	* ~~Why do we find it acceptable to~~ use cruel and unusual punishment against the children? Or ~~to punish~~ them ~~haphazardly~~?		* We use cruel and unusual punishment against the children. Or when punishing them we don't make sure they know what they are punished for and make the punishment fair. We don't allow any form of appeal either. Why is that normalized?
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
			* We expect children to act with unnecessary urgency for no apparent reason. Why is that acceptable?
	=== At school ===		=== At school ===
	* Why are students' respect is often tied to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't disturb others)?		* Why are students' respect is often tied to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't disturb others)?

Luhanopi: /* Where it happens */ section title

2026-06-23T23:38:44Z

Where it happens: section title

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	Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== ~~Where it~~ happens ==		== howit happens ==
	=== Generally ===		=== Generally ===
	* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?		* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?

Luhanopi: /* Where it happens */ expanded

2026-06-23T23:36:14Z

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	* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?		* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?
	* Why do we find it acceptable to photograph a child against their will? Or publish photographs of a child taken against their will?		* Why do we find it acceptable to photograph a child against their will? Or publish photographs of a child taken against their will?
			* Why do we find it acceptable to use cruel and unusual punishment against the children? Or to punish them haphazardly?
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
	=== At school ===		=== At school ===

Luhanopi: /* Where it happens */ to plural

2026-06-23T23:24:12Z

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	=== Generally ===		=== Generally ===
	* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?		* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?
	* Why do we find it acceptable to photograph a child against their will? Or publish ~~a photograph~~ of a child taken against their will?		* Why do we find it acceptable to photograph a child against their will? Or publish photographs of a child taken against their will?
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
	=== At school ===		=== At school ===

Luhanopi: /* Where it happens */ typo

2026-06-23T23:23:54Z

Where it happens: typo

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	=== Generally ===		=== Generally ===
	* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?		* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?
	* Why do we find it acceptable to photograph a child against their will? Or publish a ~~photography~~ of a child taken against their will?		* Why do we find it acceptable to photograph a child against their will? Or publish a photograph of a child taken against their will?
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
	=== At school ===		=== At school ===
	* Why are students' respect is often tied to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't disturb others)?		* Why are students' respect is often tied to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't disturb others)?
	* Why do we find it acceptable to publicly humiliate a student for a small mistake?		* Why do we find it acceptable to publicly humiliate a student for a small mistake?

	==References==		==References==
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Luhanopi: added examples

2026-06-23T23:20:46Z

added examples

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	Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== Where it happens ==		== Where it happens ==
			=== Generally ===
			* Why are claims made by young people believed less than these made my adults because young people are "manipulative" (even though adults are more manipulative{{cn}})?
			* Why do we find it acceptable to photograph a child against their will? Or publish a photography of a child taken against their will?
	=== At home ===		=== At home ===
	=== At school ===		=== At school ===
			* Why are students' respect is often tied to grades and behavior (including behavior that doesn't disturb others)?
			* Why do we find it acceptable to publicly humiliate a student for a small mistake?
	==References==		==References==
	<references />		<references />

Luhanopi at 13:57, 23 June 2026

2026-06-23T13:57:29Z

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	Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?		Why do we, as a society, find it okey to treat young people as less-than-humans or yet-to-be-humans? Why do we treat them in a way no adult deserves to be treated? Why is it acceptable to humiliate a child over "bad" behavior? Or be indifferent to their mental health struggles "because" of their academic achievements? Or deny them services (I'm not even talking about "dangerous" ones)? Or treat them like they are "the cause of all crime"? Or treat them as cohorts and not individuals?
	== ~~Reasons for violations~~ ==		== Where it happens ==
			=== At home ===
			=== At school ===


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